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How to spot a scam

Pawprint puppy scam warning

When searching for a puppy, or any pet, be careful you don't get scammed! Follow your gut feeling. If you think it's a scam, it probably is! If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

The breeders on this website (petsplace.co.za) are NOT scams. They are screened by me, and many have been listed for years with no complaints. This is what you can expect from an honest breeder:

If a breeder has puppies, you can ask for photos or ask for a video call. But puppies are not photogenic till they are about 6 weeks old, and photography of animals is difficult. Nursing mothers do not like to be disturbed. There are legitimate reasons why a breeder cannot make videos on demand. She has a family - maybe kids. Please be patient!

You order a puppy. The breeder tells you the price and that transport is extra. The breeder makes all the arrangements for transport. The cost of transport and a crate is included in the amount you have to pay. You pay a deposit to secure a puppy. The balance is to be paid before the puppy leaves the breeder. Inoculations and microchip are included in the price. It can take weeks to register a puppy, so the breeder may post the certificate to you along with a vet's card to show what vaccinations the pup had, or if they get it in time, they may send it in the same crate as the pup. Puppies might not see a vet until they are 6 weeks old, so they won't have a vet's certificate till they go.  If you want a copy of the parents' registration certificates before you pay, the breeder can email it to you.

That's a summary of what you can expect from the breeders on this site.


But if you intend to visit other websites, you may come across scams.

 

Here are some clues to look for if you think it might be a puppy scam.

 

Suspicious Websites

Scammers are setting up their own websites that look like a puppy business. Their shelves are well-stocked with every breed. They often have wonderful names like "FantasticCuddlyPuppies-SA.com" Sometimes they add on -SA to the name to make it look like it's a South African site. or SA without the hyphen - "lovelydogssa.com"  The word "home" is trending on the website names they invent, eg sharonpuppieshome,co.za. "Teacup puppies" can be suspicious because dogs don't really fit in a teacup, but scammers know folk want one.

Before you start your search, write down name of the site you are on - many pet sites are similar - and take screen shots as you move from page to page. As well as noting the name of the website - write down the URL, and bookmark it so you can find it again. Write down the date that you saw the ad. Before contacting a seller, Google the breed again & visit the other sites. You may find the same dog is being sold on other sites by other scammers. That's good advice, but once we find the breed we want, we don't care where we saw the ad - it's so exciting to find the dog of one's dreams! You can't wait to enquire about it!

Are there logos on the website that are meaningless? They could be copied off an overseas website. The scammer doesn't know they are irrelevant in SA.

 

Contact details

The "Contact" page may give you a red flag if you find only a form to fill up, and you cannot speak to the breeder. Always try to deal with the breeder direct - not an agent who is claiming to procure a puppy.

Write down all the numbers. They may say the cell belongs to a partner (Why?)  It could be a stolen phone.

Google the phone numbers.  See if it has been used for other deals. If it is being used for lots of ads for all different breeds, be careful. Some breeders do have more than one breed, but the dogs don't all have puppies at the same time.

 

Who is the breeder? What is the breeder's name?

A breeder is the person who owns the dog who had the puppies. If you can't contact the breeder direct, something is wrong. Good breeders only sell to approved homes and they wouldn't give a litter to an agent to sell. They want to know where their puppies are going. You need to know the full name. Scammers often use distinctly South African names, to put people off guard. They may not be South African. Good breeders give support to their customers for the rest of the dog's life. You need to be able to contact them for advice over any health issues in years to come.

 

If it's a scam, the person you are dealing with is probably not a breeder, but is pretending to be an agent who can procure puppies. Let's call him a suspect. Here are some things to find out:

What is the suspect's address?

Before you can ask where the scamster is, he has already found out where YOU are if you filled up a form. He then invents an adddress in a town far away from you in case you come to his house and see that he has no dogs. Scammers can easily copy a name and address from the internet. Try searching Google for the address to see if it has been copied. Google Maps may help. Ask if a friend can drop by. Of course, if you have already paid, they won't stop you travelling to this false address.

 

What does the suspect sound like?

The good thing about text messages is that you have a record, but phone the seller at least once and listen to the voice. Would you recognise the voice again? Are they English, Afrikaans, Nigerian, American, or other? Record calls. Don't do business by forms, emails, and text only. Be suspicious if the suspect is always out and you have to speak to someone else. Folk can change their name but not their voice.

When you phone a suspect, listen carefully. Is the call being forwarded to another number? Listen to backgroud noises, especially voices. Note the quality of the call - it could be long distance.

The scammer may send you a copy of an ID book. You can tell what age the scammer is supposed to be. Does the voice fit the age?

 

What does the suspect look like?

You can chat face to face by video on facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Skype, etc.  Check the background.

Check the person on social media. They can put up a false profile, of course. Lots of profiles. Is there a different cell number on facebook that you can take note of?

 

Fake Photos

Those photos of sweet puppies melt your heart! But they may be PhotoShopped. Right click on the photos on the site to see if they appear on other sites. They may have been copied from another site without permission. Check Google images, and Bing. Or they may have got them from a breeder by pretending to want to buy a puppy. Try http://tineye.com to check photo useage.

Do all the puppies seem the same age? Ask for photos of the parents. If they send a video, was it forwarded to them by someone else? Rather arrange a face-to-face video call with the scammmer to see your puppy's siblings and parents. If they DO show you the litter, then it's probably not a scam at all! It's delightful to see a whole litter at play. Pick the most active one - you can't tell by a photo. Only a video can tell. Please note - the video is only effective if the puppies are ready to go - the same puppies as in the photos you were shown on the website. It's no good watching a video of newborns - one can't tell what they will be like when they are grown.

 

emails and all written correspondance

Don't delete email, WhatsApp chat, or facebook messages from the seller. Keep records.

What time was the message sent? If it was the middle off the night, it may indicate a scammer in another country and another time zone. (or an innocent insomniac!)

Hover your mouse over the "from" field to see who the email is really from. If it's a gmail account, they may be anywhere in the world. Check the wording. Do they use words that one doesn't hear in South Africa? How is the spelling and typing?

The first emails usually ask you questions to see if you will give the puppy a good home. They will assure you they are reputable, honest breeders, not a puppy mill, puppies are guaranteed. They copy this wording off other people's advertisements. Then they pressure you into paying urgently for some reason.

Check your junk mail folder to see if any of their messages are on hold. But remember junk mail is often wrongly filed by robots and could be innocent.

 

Lies about a vet

If you think it's a scam and they say the puppy has been innoculated, you can ask to see the vet's certificate - both sides - so you can see the name and adddress of the vet, and date of innoculations, or ask the name, address, and phone number of the vet.  But they may copy an innocent vet's details from the internet. If you think it's a scam, you could phone the vet. He will remember if he microchipped & inoculated a whole litter if you give him the date of the visit, which will be on the vet's certificate. The scammer may mention an airport vet who says another inoculation is needed. Do vets have a practice at an airport?

    Please note that genuine breeders may place an advertisement BEFORE the puppy has been inoculated, on the understanding that it WILL be done the age of 6 weeks. It takes time to find suitable homes for puppies, so some breeders place the ad as soon as the pups have been born. There is no vet's certificate yet.

The sick puppy scam

Scammers may say the puppy is ill and they have no money for the vet. Don't fall for it! The breeder must pay the vet and only sell healthy puppies. They are playing on your emotions.

   

Non-existent Transport Companies

Scammers invent names of pet transport companies and may ask you to pay the transport company direct. Check the credentials of the transport company in the same way as you check the seller. They may have copied the ID of a perfectly good company.  If the puppy is to fly, ask the flight number and check with the airport if there really is a plane that has permission to land at that time. Is it not unbelievable that they can fly tomorrow or any day?

The "Transport Company" might be the scammer himself using a different name, or another member of the same puppy scam ring. Phone & see if it's the voice you heard before.

 

Border fees scam

Sometimes the puppy is free or cheap, and you just have to pay for transport. The seller says he has had to go to another country on business and had to take the puppy with him as it's too young to leave. The transport costs start rising!

Scammers may claim the puppy is detained at the border. They need clearance money urgently. Ignore it.

 

Fraudulent bank accounts

Scammers use stolen bank cards, stolen cell phones, stolen ID books, and false names.  They change their name frequently, so it is very difficult to trace them. Google their bank a/c to see if it appears in other ads. When adding a beneficiary on internet banking, make use of any button the bank provides to check the name of the account holder against the account number. Write down the name and account number. If it's not in the scammer's name she may say that the a/c is in her partner or accountant's name. Take note of this red flag! Be suspicious if the a/c is in someone else's name. It may be a stolen a/c. There is a list of stolen accounts below.

 

Lies about registration

Ask if the puppy is registered. If they say, "Yes," ask WITH WHO is it registered? If it's registered with AKC (American Kennel Club) bear in mind that the puppy would have to be 12 weeks old to be able to fly from USA. What about quarantine?  This website recommends KUSA as a reputable dog registry. KUSA is the Kennel Union of Southern Africa. It is internationally recognised. If you think it's a scam, insist on seeing the parents' registration certificates.  If they try to brush aside your request for a copy of the papers before you pay, it is most certainly a scam. Give them one day to send you copies. They can wait for their money.

If they say the puppy is NOT registered, then you shouldn't have to pay thousands of Rands for it. There is no proof that the dog is pure-bred.

 

Lies about a microchip

Refuse to accept the puppy until it has a microchip implanted. It's usually done by a vet at the age of 6 weeks. Ask for the microchip number and say you want to check it on the data base. In order to be registered with KUSA, the puppy must be microchipped.

 

Fake testimonials & references

Scamsters can easily get another member of the scam ring to pretend to be a satisfied customer. They can get photos off another website - perhaps one that is overseas that you are unlikely to look at. Google the referee and contact them!

NB, I'd be happy to give a reference for the breeders listed on petsplace.co.za.

 

Bullying is a tactic of a scammer

When the scammers see that you are suspicious, they first protest that they are honest, upstanding, people. Then they become aggressive, abusive and make threats.  They say if you are going to carry on being so suspicious, they will cancel the deal. Your heart is set on getting this sweet puppy. Don't be bullied into paying until you are entirely satisfied that it is wise to do so. If you are in doubt, quickly stop any payment you made to give yourself time to think. Do NOT select "Immediate Payment." Try to make your payment future-dated to give yourself time to cancel it. If possible, transfer the money from a bank that is different from the suspect's as this can take a few days. Once you've paid, the scammer may play for time to make sure the money is in his account, and that he can withdraw it and money-launder it. He doesn't want you phoning the bank just yet. He needs time to take down his advert, which might be on several free classified sites, so he will tell you there is a problem with transport, or something.

 

The "Transport Company" scam

To cover up the fact that the puppy is not on its way, they may ask you for another large sum for an air-conditioned or electronic crate, a ventilator for the puppy, more vaccine, or something, which they say they will refund after delivery. Hmmm.... Really?  If you send your banking details, watch out that they don't ask for your PIN too! They will empty your account. Don't send copies of your ID and driving licence. They will use it to create a false identity. They will pretend to be you!

They are not bothered whether you fall for this second scam, they just want time to disappear.

Then the scammer stops answering calls. That's the last you will hear of him. The puppy doesn't come. You have been played a cruel trick.

You feel stupid. But you are NOT stupid. You are a normal animal-lover, and you have been deceived by cunning, evil people.

Report it to the police quick before he disappears!

 

All of the above is to activate your own instinctive feelings only, and is not to be taken as proof of a scam.

Please understand that the breeders listed on THIS website are not scams! So you shouldn't have to check up on them. I hope you will get a lovely puppy soon! You can order a puppy with confidence here : Registered dog breeders (all breeds)


 

Have you been scammed?

Ask your bank to stop payment. Phone the bank where you deposited the money. Tell them that the account is being used for fraud. If enough people report the bad account, the bank may investigate. SABRIC may have a fraud department. It will help if you have a case number from the police.

If you have lost money, treat it as a robbery and get a case number from the police. This is very important. The criminal may be caught for another crime, and the more charges against him, the better. You are unlikely to get money back if you have not got a case number. The local constable may think this is just about one puppy, but there are international crime syndicates at work. They are busy right now scamming other people. The Organised Crime Unit needs to investigate. Please report it!

More info on this page Where to report scams

 

 

 

My prayer for scammers is that they may turn from their wickedness and compensate their victims, or repay society in some way. They are like Jacob the Deceiver in the Bible. He was a swindler but he turned around and became a great man. (Genesis)   God sees the scammer. He says, "Turn to me with all your heart, with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning." Who knows if he will repent and leave a blessing behind him? Joel 2, 13 & 14

 

Cells (probably stolen) that have allegedly been used in scams. Check this list before you pay a scammer! Please send any numbers you know of.

 

063 801 9773

063 961 9971

063 982 2778

065 551 9797

073 436 9348

073 453 8941

078 312 0006

079 079 8772

083 237 8152

083 543 8124

 

Bank accounts that have allegedly been used in scams (Please help us list them if you were scammed)

 

ABSA  935 798 4637

Capitec 142 086 5879

Capitec 171 429 6723

FNB 628 460 43628

FNB 628 464 26402

FNB 628 524 40655  N. Sibeko
 

FNB 628 531 97054

FNB 628 535 86546

 

 

Names (probably false) allegedly used in scams.

Marcus Warren Buys

Erika Marx

Genevieve Meyer

Kim Roslyn Cronk

Melissa Dawson

Shonaaz McPherson

Sophia Moore

 

emails used in scams

sophiapuppies003@gmail.com

jamesmMorrison51@gmail.com
 

ID numbers (probably stolen) allegedly used in scams

62041400031081  ISLE AUGUSTE ELIZABETH VAN HEMERT
 

650327 010 9082 Erika Marx

850220 996 083

870 828 003 7086 Natasha de Agrela

 

List of Scam websites

 

Help fight the scamdemic!

Please tell me your story, and include bank account numbers, cell numbers, ID numbers, and any facts that will help. It may help others to recognise a scam. If I can help you in any way, I will.  eileen@petsplace.co.za


 

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